Another Win – Chingford

By • on November 13, 2012

90-92 Chingford Mount Road, London E4 9AA

We’ll  keep doing this if you don’t grant planning permission!

A planning application was submitted for a mosque at No 90 and 92 Chingford Mount Road. No 90 was to go  from  a “book shop” (you know the routine) to a full mosque, and be extended to No 92. More than doubling its size, to a total of 148 square metres, or 1,600 square feet.

The Applicants said that otherwise they would have to pray in the street.

The proposal was gross over development, and out of context with the residential area – busy roads, terraced streets, continuous double yellows, white zig zags, and residents-only parking.  Chingford Islamic Society – wanted the mosque open from sunrise to 11:30pm, 365 days a year, making huge disturbance for neighbours, and unacceptable congestion and noise problems.

This was a reworking of an application that had already been refused, and the Applicants were trying their customary Grind-‘Em-Down act. It didn’t work. In fact they have gone backwards for their pains, earning themselves a refusal that is even more tightly worded than the last one!

What follows is a report from our Man-At-The-Meeting, and how I envy him for delivering the coup de grace.

We arrived at Waltham Forest Town Hall for the Planning Committee meeting at 7pm. Walking down the long drive to the main entrance we saw a large group standing outside the front entrance, the majority of them in traditional muslim garb – long white shirts, white hats and beards.

We just managed to enter the building, at a push. Council security shouted that people should move away from the entrance to allow people in, but the cries must have fallen on deaf ears because no one made any attempt to move. I had to use my brief case to prise access to the front desk, where i gave my name and informed them that I was a speaker. We were told to wait and someone would come to take us to chambers soon.

While we were waiting, the many muslims packed into the reception area were looking at the few of us dressed in suits and taking pictures with their mobiles.

There was a lot of shouting as people tried to explain that not everyone would be able to get into the public gallery. This only increased the jostling by the muslims in the crowd, partly for position. But also, it was obvious, to ensure that as many non muslims as possible were stopped from getting into the public gallery. I only saw 1 non muslim heading towards the stairs to the gallery.

At 7.20pm the five speakers were lead through the crowd to the Council chamber. Just before 7.30 I looked behind me to see a stream of people, mostly muslims, being lead into the chamber itself and sitting or standing behind us. This is contrary to normal procedure, which usually requires that Councillors and speakers should be safe from any feeling of intimidation. It seems some types of intimidation are more acceptable than others!

The meeting finally got underway at 7.40. I was the first to speak.

If the muslims standing behind me intended to intimidate me, they failed. I delivered my prepared address in full, despite the shouting when they realised that I had called Islam a violent religion.

The speeches by the Architect for the application, and by one of the mosques supporters, was meet with huge cheers and loud applause. You can easily imagine.

One of the speeches by the Councillor for the ward pointed out that she had not spoken to one local person in favour of the mosque application. This statement was meet by more Islamic hooting, causing the Chair of the Committee to call for order.

Once order was resumed, the planning officer gave his statement, and made a biased comment about the attitude of some of the objectors. This was surprising because I was the only person who had identified Islam as a problem. All of the other speakers had fallen over themselves to say how Islam wasn’t a problem, and that their concerns were only with parking problems, noise pollution might arise, and God forbid any of them should take a dim view of the that Religion of Permanent Offense.

After conceding, reluctantly it seemed, that there was no reason he could find to pass the application, the Planning Officer advised the Planning Committee to refuse permission.

The vote against the application was unanimous, and met by even loader jeers, hollering, and expletives than before. I saw two of the supporters of the mosque leaving with the accustomed bad loser attitude that we have come to expect at these applications. Shouting, swearing, kicking chairs, and punching doors rather than opening them.

I do hope their unsporting ways didn’t cause them to feel too badly about the refusal!

We realised this might be one of those times when the Religion of Peace gets violent, so we made for the exits, quickly shook hands, and congratulated each other as we made our way out. You feel ten feet tall when you stop a mosque. It’s a life’s good works in one evening.

As we left, the guard on the front desk was still screaming for people to clear the entrance, but to no avail. By now the failure of the application had reached the Islamic crowd at the front of the building, many of whom were trying to force their way in just as others were trying to leave. Some were trying to question us on the way out, asking our names, and why we were opposed to the mosque. We ignored them, and pushed through with raised briefcase.

Once outside, it seemed safest not to hang around. People still tried to question us, but we made our excuses and walking to our cars. Luckily it started raining, and the group of warriors stopped following.

The best moment of the evening came next, when I turned around and saw about twenty muslims standing on the Council steps, shouting and gesticulating at each other, and generally looking displeased.

I have to admit that I enjoyed that.

Comments

By Michael Hughes on November 21st, 2012 at 2:32 am

Gavin well done mate and it’s nice to see a lawyer who believes in his work and who also speaks the truth the whole TRUTH.

By Dave on November 21st, 2012 at 5:10 pm

I would have loved to have been there for that. how can I get a job that stops mosques. I always wanted a job that I would enjoy or get a great amount of pleasure from.

Dave

By Elsa on November 22nd, 2012 at 12:27 am

Congratulations, Gavin, for daring to stand up for what you believe in.

By slobo on November 22nd, 2012 at 6:14 am

Bravo! Good Show! Here in America we appear to enjoy the same problem. Numerous mosques are now popping up throughout the Southern States, and mysteriously find themselves burned to the ground! I think it must be lightening from the Great Jehovah! Afterall, Jesus is Lord! Keep up the good fight! Happy Thanksgiving from the good old USA! And thanks again for freeing us as a Colony!

Respectfully, slobo

By Peter Montaigu on November 22nd, 2012 at 8:22 am

You are an inspiration in dark times!!!!

Keep up the good work.

By Viv Johnson on November 22nd, 2012 at 10:48 am

Great news. Well done. Lets keep these horrible Mosques out of the UK where possible. Nothing but institutions for evil,hate and terrorism.

By David Cross on November 22nd, 2012 at 10:54 am

Congratulations and a fine result it must be said.

By demographic on November 22nd, 2012 at 11:11 am

Next time wouldn’t it be a good idea to have a bunch of our lads outside to give support,think about it. Well done Gavin, a winner never quits……

By Gerry Dorrian on November 22nd, 2012 at 11:27 am

Well done – perhaps one day the sort of thugs that you describe will realise they are in Britain and if they want things built they have to adhere to our planning processes and our way of doing things that has been honed over the last milennium plus!

By Gleaner1 on November 22nd, 2012 at 6:15 pm

Congratulations to all concerned. This is the most important fight going.
Newham will be the BIG one – man, what a target.

By Linda Rivera on November 22nd, 2012 at 9:13 pm

Protect Innocents! Stop the Muslim military invasion of Britain, Europe and the Free World! MUSLIMS CALL THEIR MILITARY COMMAND CENTERS, MOSQUES:

wnd.com: 40,000 Iran agents in Western Hemisphere Now hidden in Latin America, awaiting ‘operations’ against U.S.
“We must get ready for global operation. … Our fellow fighters are present in all five continents of the world. … An international jihad must be provoked; we must fear no one.”

The Revolutionary Guards’ intelligence division runs operations out of mosques.

Those operations include recruitment, reconnaissance and transfer of arms and cash.

This source also verified then that all Imam Ali Mosques are controlled by regime intelligence operatives and that the cells are well placed in Europe and America for terrorist acts…
http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/army-of-iran-sadists-poised-for-u-s-invasion/

By Linda Rivera on November 22nd, 2012 at 9:16 pm

Turkish Prime Minister, Erdogan, explained the function of mosques. Erdogan: The mosques are our barracks, the domes our helmets, the minarets our bayonets and the faithful our soldiers…

Abu Baseer in London: “One of the goals of immigration is the revival of the duty of jihad and enforcement of power over the infidels. Immigration and jihad go together.

The Quran teaches hate, violence and mass murder of non-Muslims and commands Muslims to wage jihad against non-Muslims and conquer all nations. In a dreadful act of treason many millions of Muslims have been imported into our countries by our leaders, in order to facilitate jihad and Islamic conquest of our nations. It is the greatest betrayal by nations’ leaders in all of human history.

“The whole of Europe will become Islamic. Like the army of the sultan we will conquer Rome.”
− Former Turkish Prime Minister Necmettin Erbakan, June 2002

Join/Support British Freedom in the fight for FREEDOM for Britain and the Free World!
http://britishfreedom.org/

By Linda Rivera on November 22nd, 2012 at 9:17 pm

Law and Freedom, thank you so very much for fighting for Britain and the entire Free World!

By Edward Dennis on November 22nd, 2012 at 11:51 pm

Congratulations upon another great win Mr. Boby.

By Garth on December 17th, 2012 at 12:49 pm

So nice to see an articulate, intelligent person who is capable of clearly defining the threat to our nations future. Thank you for all of your efforts.

By Pete on December 18th, 2012 at 9:31 am

Great, keep up the good work. Mosques should not be allowed in UK. These savages use mosque to build their terror networks, so oppose them. allah does not exist so u dont have to fear hellfire

By Kem on December 26th, 2012 at 12:55 pm

Congratulations on another one. Please keep up what you are doing, people might not really appreciate the good you are doing but hopefully thier eyes will open as mine have.

Much love and respect all the way from Australia.

By Adapter Mangos (@TamIMisledUs) on January 16th, 2013 at 1:00 am

Congratulations on your success in helping us to stem the tide of islamification in the UK, and so the rest of the world. If we are to reverse the tide, at least in the UK, it is necessary to reduce the total number of mosques. Do you have (in mind, if not yet in practice) any legal strategies which might support this aim?

By Anisa sheikh on February 17th, 2013 at 9:49 am

I’ve never seen so much predjudice in one place before! Why do you have articles from America to show you what goes on in a mosque? I’m a Muslim and I don’t condone terrorism, I wouldn’t allow myself to be treated badly by anyone Muslim or otherwise and I don’t hate Jews and gays. I’m not a minority and I’ve never heard such things preached in my local mosque or indeed any other mosque I have visited. Contrary to the ill informed rhetoric espoused on this forum not all Muslims are women beating fanatical Jew haters. Your articles read like a manifesto for the BNP, I’ve never heard so much incorrect cods wallop. You should concentrate your efforts on opposing betting shops, casinos, sex shops and pubs in low demographic areas which are the real cause of moral decline and break down of society rather than targeting places of worship. My daughter has gone today on a Sunday morning to volunteer at a mosque that runs a fortnightly soup kitchen to feed the poor people affected by the sort of places I have mentioned who have lost their homes through alcoholism, gambling etc all are welcome whatever faith ( or not )you are, but no doubt you would have something like that shut down in favour of a ladbrookes. Truly baffling. I invite you to be better informed about Muslims by actually speaking to them, go to you local mosque dialogue with the people you are making assumptions about, you might just be suprised because its clear from the comments here that the people supporting your ’cause’ don’t know the first thing about Islam or Muslims except what they read in the sun newspaper.

By Andrew on February 17th, 2013 at 4:44 pm

Fantastic result but they’ll keep coming back again and again as they are now not shy of showing their intention to wipe out the British way of life by any means possible. First it is kebab shop and newsagents, then they buy up the houses, then they set up a mosque, this being the biggest single physical representation of forced capitulation to their weird ways. And that’s the final nail in the coffin for everyone and everything in the area.

It won’t happen though, they think they have established a foothold but it is only temporary as the British will start fighting back against this foreign threat.

By Annonymous on February 20th, 2013 at 3:42 am

I agree with you Andrew. Those moslems with their eerie loudspeaker praying noise, even have the nerve to paint themselves as moral beings.
Those moslems via their extremely inconsiderate behaviours, are denying morally upright people from having a decent home. Those moslems are shamelessly forcing people to respect them even though there is nothing great or respectable about their disgusting moslems imposition or their rude eastern islamic culture. No matter how nice those moslems pretend to be, their mosques don’t belong to the West.

By John on February 20th, 2013 at 10:01 pm

You bunch of sad racist make me laugh. So what one mosque refused in Waltham Forest but thousands being approved in lo don and up and down the country. Churches being converted, pubs being converted and betting shops being converted to mosques. More and more White English people converting to islam. Muslims in prominent places in society, professionals, politician, doctora, the food you guys eAt os probablly halaal from kebabs to kfc and halal food in supermarkets increasing. last census reveas 5% Muslims. Despite your ignorant understanding of islam- I’m sure deep down you know islam is increaing and muslims more influential it is you ignorant people on this website who is a minority. Wahaha !

By John on February 20th, 2013 at 10:01 pm

You bunch of sad racist make me laugh. So what one mosque refused in Waltham Forest but thousands being approved in lo don and up and down the country. Churches being converted, pubs being converted and betting shops being converted to mosques. More and more White English people converting to islam. Muslims in prominent places in society, professionals, politician, doctora, the food you guys eAt os probablly halaal from kebabs to kfc and halal food in supermarkets increasing. last census reveas 5% Muslims. Despite your ignorant understanding of islam- I’m sure deep down you know islam is increaing and muslims more influential it is you ignorant people on this website who is a minority. Wahaha !

By Annonymous on February 21st, 2013 at 1:47 am

Whether moslems are influential or not is their own private business, as long as they keep their extremely intolerant islamic influence within their own islamic community. Opposing moslems, islam or mosques, within reasons, should be acceptable in any democratic country. Moslems are in fact one of the most illogically racist and deranged lots in the world. We nonbelievers should not feel afraid to voice out anything that we don’t like about moslems or islam, eventhough it is dangerous and risky to criticise their islam, their moslem community, their islamic leaders, their asiatic, middeeastern islamic culture, etc, due to their inability to take criticism or opposition against their foul islamic culture in the right way or in the civilised way.

By ameer ali on August 26th, 2013 at 9:34 pm

I do not think the Chingford mosque as taken the right approach. It is not right to cause issues for neighbours. Praying outside the mosque is not the best approach to take.

The mosque however does need expansion as it is not big enough to cater for the local Muslim community. There are plenty of unused churches in Chingford. Well, actually they are in use, chavs and Europeans visit them to steal the lead off their roofs! I reckon if the Christians can’t be bothered to worship then lets just buy of their churches and turn it into a mosque. There wont be an issue with planning as its already a place of worship? Job done.

To the racist above, seriously, get a brain.

By Adam Lowe on September 10th, 2013 at 8:28 pm

Well Done Gavin, keep it going. Your profile is rapidly growing!

By Gary on November 2nd, 2014 at 11:10 pm

What a bunch of pathetic narrow minded racist creed are you!
Shame on your loser mentality.For crying out loud,losers this is a place of worship not a develish pub or a night club,Devil worshipers!!!

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